All Around the Room

- [Patty] This is all around the room.

- It is a webinar part of the pinnacle training with the Alabama Baptist State Board of Missions. In the past, we've been able to go to the Shockoe and have a... It's been called the summit before, and we've had live training events, but we are coming to you through zoom. And so we do what we can because we believe in training. And so we thank you for coming in and joining us. I'm Patty Burns, if we have never met. I am a state missionary with the Alabama Baptist State Board of Missions. And my ministry area is pre-school and vacation Bible school. And it's my privilege to serve you guys in that capacity. Beth Henderson is here with us tonight. She is the pre-school minister at Mount Zion in Huntsville, Alabama. Her husband, David, is the children's pastor at Mount Zion as well. And this lady I've known her for over 20 years. She is passionate about talking with children about Jesus. And she's passionate about training teachers to share the love of Jesus. And you are gonna see that tonight as she talks to you. Probably the one thing she would want me to tell you is that she has the most adorable grandbaby. so she might tell you a little bit more about Micah in just a minute. But before I hand it off to Beth, let's pray, okey. Father, God, we love you. And we thank you for the ability to come to a training through this technology. Lord, we pray that tonight, that it will run smoothly and that we won't have any hiccups. We know that what we are doing is so important and this training is needed father. Maybe we're gonna hear some things tonight that we've already heard and they're just gonna inspire us to continue or encourage us to continue. Maybe Lord, you have some new things for us to hear, but whatever the case may be, father, I know that you've prepared that. I pray that you will speak through her, that you will give her the information that we need. And father, I know that you will be honored and glorified by this evening, father. That is our wish. That is our desire. We love you. We thank you for joining us here tonight. In Jesus name. Amen. Ms. Beth, pass it off to you.

- Okay. Thanks Patty. This is little bit different because I'm talking to myself instead of getting to see your wonderful faces, but I'm glad you're here. I am Beth Henderson and I am the pre-school minister here. And my husband, David and I have one daughter Lauren and we have one and a son-in-law Josh and a grandson that just turned a year old. He's about 14 and a half months old right now. And his name was Micah. And if you need pictures or video, please just let me know and I'll be glad to send you, 'cause I have plenty of both. Tonight we're gonna be talking about all around the room. And the whole idea is this is learning centers. And a lot of times our Sunday school teachers say that's too much work or it's too hard. So tonight what I'm gonna do is share why we have learning centers, some ideas about learning centers, about how many people come in there. And then I've actually set up the room that we're in, which is actually a two year old room or three-year-old room, depending on which age group we need in here, for what program. And I'm actually going to go around the room and show you some ideas for learning centers. And in fact, everything that I'll show you as far as ideas to use the learning centers all came out of the Bible studies for life from September, October, November, the ones that are coming up for the fall. So hopefully you'll get some ideas and can see how that works. So we're just gonna jump right in. And the first question I wanna ask you, is why do we have learning centers? What's the reason for them? Well, the first thing is they provide learning experiences for pre-schoolers in ways that they learn best. When our children come in and they see different activities around the room, they're excited to see what they like to do. And if there's a learning center that fits how they learn, they'll automatically gravitate to it and they can learn through the way that they learn best. Another way is they allow our pre-schoolers to be active and to move. Our preschoolers have to move. They have to be active. They're not little adults that sit in chairs because even our adults can sit in chairs for that long. And their attention spans are so quick. Even our adults are that. I don't know if you know, but most adults, it used to be everybody had the attention span of about eight minutes. For pre-schoolers and children, it's usually a minute per year but that has gone down. And the reason that attention span has gone down is because of TV. Because about every eight minutes or six minutes, there's a commercial. So I wanna ask for a raising of hands, but how many of you were in church Sunday morning? Preacher was talking or watching live and about every so often, all of a sudden you realize that you stepped out a moment and the preacher was on something else. So that's why we need to make sure because our attention spans are so small or so short, we need to make sure that they can move and have activities and things that meet their ideas and their active. Pre-schoolers need a variety of learning activities. We learn and we use to teach how we learn. I'm a musical learner. So I like to have music into what I'm doing. I'm also a very... I like to talk, I like to explain things. So I like things... There's a lot of relationship and talking with people and finding out about people. Some of our children are not like that. I can remember, Patrick. He's a little boy, he didn't like to do anything crafty. He didn't like music but he loved blocks. So I learned that I needed to make sure I had something for Patrick. So as we're getting to know our children, we can learn what activities and how they like to learn and then choose activities to fit those learning styles. They are very effective in building relationships between pre-schooler and pre-schooler and preschooler and teacher. Because as they're working together, they get to talk, they get to share, they get to laugh. And that's the same thing, you can relate to them as teacher to child and learn more about them as... And you can watch them as they relate together and they work together on things. And learning centers are fun. And we know that if you're having fun at something you're gonna be learning something. And you'll remember that when you're having fun with it. So here's the how tos of learning centers. The first is, how many learning centers do we need in a room? Well, that's a good question because it depends on a lot of your space and how many teachers you have. If you only have one teacher, you don't need eight learning centers, maybe one or two. And then before COVID, you could say up to about four pre-schoolers and the learning center was a good average. Now it's a little bit different since we're social distancing. But one about four. So if you had a class of 12, you would probably want three learning centers. Just so you could spread them out. They could go from activity to activity. Then the second thing we need to do is, how many teachers do we need? That's based on how many learning centers you have. If you have two teachers, you can have a learning center where one teacher is, it's a teacher led learning center, where the teacher is there guiding the children. And then you might have two other activities, two other learning centers that the children can rotate in and just be there and the other teacher can rotate between the groups because there's not a teacher led something, that it's just children's led. Then what about space? The room that I'm gonna show you, is a fairly large room. And I've actually set up, I think it's eight, seven or eight learning centers, don't wanna count right now. And it's too many in this room. But I wanted to be able to show you different things and different activities and how ideas to set up. So the smaller your room, the less you need to have. But I would say at least have two, three for lucky. Now I don't have a place for that. Find a corner. And in fact, the home living that I'm gonna show you, part of it's in a corner. Our books center is in a corner. Our art center is on a table or in the middle of the room, which I'll show you all that. So find space, use your corners, use your walls. And then if you have excess furniture, move it to the side, move it out, if you need to. Just to give you more room. Now, another one is how much time should a pre-schooler be in those rooms, in those centers? Some of them they'll be in there three minutes. Some they may like that and may be in their 15 minutes. It just depends on your children going back and forth. So if you have a center or if you're doing two or three centers that could actually take 30 minutes of your Sunday school time. Whatever, how you go by, how they're going, let them guide you. And I know when you're doing centers, one thing that I used to do, is I would work so hard. I'd find an activity and I'd go, I'd love it. I love it. I love it. They're gonna spend 15 minutes right here. And then I would say, well, I need to throw something else in just in case or throw two something in. And it never seemed to fail that the one that I spent the most time on and I loved the most, they were there two to three minutes. And the one that I thought would last two to three minutes would last 15 to 20. So we'll need to be prepared, but we need to let them guide us in what they want to do and how they want to learn. And that comes up too. Should we rotate our pre-schoolers? Or should we let them go back and forth? Or should we let them stay in one place? To be honest, that's up to you. I always like to rotate mine so they can experience the many different things. If they didn't wanna rotate, I really didn't force them to do. I really don't force them to. But if they try to make something so excited that they want to do everything. When we're painting in a center, I've learned that I cannot handle four children painting. So I might have one or two at the table with me and what I will do if another child comes up, if the child is not finished painting, I will say, let me put your name on a list and I'll write their name down. And as soon as one child leaves, I would call them up. So everyone would have the chance. So as far as rotating, let them rotate if that's what you want to do, if you want to put them in groups where they rotate in the group, make sure you have some kind of warning signal. When the bell rings, when the lights flicker, that's when it's time to go to our next one. And on that one, we need to remember to give our little boys a warning. They do not do well when you just like, "That's it. No, that's time." That's when they get frustrated because our little guys like to finish whatever they start. So give a warning before you start the time to change. Okay? Now, if you have any questions, let me know on that. But now I'm excited more about the centers. That's some basic stuff in the centers, but I want to take you and show you. Now, the problem with this is, I've found out that when I turn my computer down, you get to see my keyboard and not what's out there. So I'll probably you... I'll try not to get you dizzy and I'll try to go slow, going up and down. But we're gonna go through all the centers, let you see and then I'm also gonna talk to you a little bit after that, about what we might need to do with the situation we're in with the COVID and just some ideas that we've done. So I'm gonna get up and leave the screen and you will see my computer. So excuse me, just a minute. I hope I'm not making you Okay. Our first center, a lovely wall in that just nice. Our first center is a music center. What I've done here is, well, sorry, to seeing this. Does that matter? Is that working better? I've got these little four pads down here and I have a bucket with music instruments. And then I've got a bean bag. The two... The activities that have been chosen, I've chosen, one out of kindergarten and one out of the threes Pre-K. And so one of them was to play the instruments to one of our songs, our unit songs, as they marched. And that was about when they were marching around the city before the walls came falling down. And the other was a bean bag. And they would toss the bean bag to each other as the music is playing. And also I put the read to me Bible in there. So you could show them the verse and show them where it's talking about the story. So that is the music center. And if you're not musically inclined play a recording, it works. Okay. So now I'll get up and I'll roll this around. And our next one, we're going to go to, is our blocks. Let me come down a little bit. And we have I have a Lego table. Okay. We're fortunate here that I do have some good equipment, but the Lego table, you can do this on the floor. The idea with Lego table this last time was to build a house and it was talking about families. And so they would take the Legos out and build a house. You can get the Lego flat things. You can get little ones at dollar tree, or they could just build on the floor or wherever because Legos are a lot of fun. We also use Duplos for our bigger kids. Also the other block. And I'm just gonna crawl over, so y'all, excuse me. I've got the... I used to call them blockbuster blocks in the back. And the blockbuster blocks you still can get the... I can't remember what we call them. I got those from discount school supply. And, but if you don't have those, easiest thing to do, collect boxes. Just collect cereal boxes, any kind of thing and stuff them with hyper newsprint, any kind of thing. And then you can cover with contact paper. And then I brought my little wooden blocks and the idea with this one, the activity was to build the tower and before and also the wall for the... When they walked around the wall For home living, let's see, can we do that work right there? This is our kitchen. And I will show you some things, if you don't have the kitchen. But I did not choose an activity with the kitchen. So on this side, let me turn around a little bit. We've got our baby dolls and they're in their bed. But this was breakfast with Zacchaeus. And so I put some pillows in here, they were just a little dollar pillows. And then we have food there and that was to let them actually have breakfast with Zacchaeus. When Jesus, after he told him to come to... Get out of the tree, I wanna come to your house. They can go and have a meal with Zacchaeus. And so that's what that was with the meal. And then we also talked about taking a trip. So y'all, excuse me, I'm just crawling around. And they were going to go, they were going to pack. So I just took some paper and I've got dishes in here and I've got clothes and blankets, and I've got the paper that they could wrap the things up. Let me see that. They can wrap all the things and then put them in the box and pack for that trip or that move. It's what it was. Then we'll go to art, and I'll stand up just a minute. 'Cause I think we can see it from here. We have two activities. The first one, because we are talking about families, the first one is to draw a family portrait. One of my folks last night did that for me. And so all it is, is the paper, making a frame and the markers. Now this is something that has changed with COVID. We no longer can just throw our markers to the table. We've got to actually clean them. So, one thing that we did in Bible school and are fixed to be doing this in a Sunday school, is we're going to have Ziploc bags with the child's name on it, with some markers in it. And those would be their markers that they will use when they come to Sunday school. The second art thing that we did was to build blocks. These are stamped brick designs. This was Josh show up and at Jericho. And so they took the Legos and just put them in the stamp pad and then did a pattern. I don't know if you can see that. And then we had white for them. This was my husband, David's and let me show you the difference between a minister to children and an engineer. If you can say that they engineered a lot of patterns and David did like a child would do. So those were two of our activities and it was the same thing. We let them use the different pads but each one had certain blocks, so that we did not share germs for that way. Then we're coming around to our puzzle area. Oops, sorry, that was my knees. And one of the activities was to use a magnetic letters to spell words about a band, Jesus and trust and things like that, and that's all we did. And this was more of a kindergarten one where they matched the letters. Then we also just had regular puzzles. They talked about the fruit and especially the grapes that they found. to make sure we get that. And then another puzzle about animals. And then we had the other activity, was to take paper towel rolls and cut them in different lengths. And there were two ways to do this. One was to stack them up, stand them up with the heights. And the other was to lay them down and do it with the lengths and let them put them in order. Then as we come around the room, we've got... This is one of my Sunday school teachers that she sits in the chair to tell their... Have their small groups. And then we've got our book wreck with our books and the children would just come and sit and read a book. And that was one of the suggested. And the other was to read a book in a tent. So we've got our tent and got our books and I got our flashlights. So that's always fun to do. And this next quarter, we'll be talking about Moses. So we've got our Moses books. And then we've just got some activity things where we talk about needing animals, a lot of times we'll pull the barn out and things like that. Okay. Let me get back over here, How about that? So those are activities around the room. Now, a lot of times we get, we look at our books, you let me get out of the thing there. Okay. And like I said, all these came from the Bible studies for life, the next quarter, three's pre-K and kindergarten books. And they used to do something and this time they've stopped doing it. And so they take the activities. And when you get to the activities, they just give you the activities. Well, a lot of times we go, I can't do centers because I can't think of stuff. I can't think of all that stuff. Well, the one thing that you do, is look at your Bible learning activities and then figure out what center it should go in. And several of these could have been in different centers. And so that's what I did with the ones that I chose to show you. I just took my Sunday school curriculum and chose activities out of that. Let me show you a resource that I have. I don't know if you've heard of him. Most of you have Mr. Mark's classroom. And he has a book that's called that is Learning Centers Beyond Compare. And it doesn't look like this. It's a downloadable thing. And then I just went through and put it in pages. And they're probably 20 to 30 ideas for each of these centers. If there's something that you go. well, I'd like to do something different and you can adapt them really easily. He used to do a thing where if you signed up to get his emails and things like that, then... And he sometimes will do it. He'll give you for the first time, he'll give you a free book download. Don't know if he's still doing that, but there's a possibility of that and he does it from time to time. And, or you can just go on his website, and which is Mr. Mark's classroom. And you can find out the books and you can download them. It costs a little bit, but you can download it. But it's not much, especially for that much information. Like I said before, we're very fortunate here that I've got some equipment, but I want to show you some things If you don't have the equipment, if your church is not able to provide some of the equipment and some of the things, as far as in the books, if you don't have a book wreck. I have this and it's just one of those little binder things. And you could use something like this to put your books in. In fact, in our... Where we store our books, this is what we have our books in just so we could find them easier. And these were, sound like I'm telling you where I shop everywhere, but target. And I think there were $2 a piece. I think it's what it was. But this would be an easy one to store your books in and you could see your books and then just put it on the floor, put a carpet square down there or just let them sit on the floor and do it. Home living is one of those things where you go, those things that can get expensive. And yes they can, but I made a bed. We've got a bed and all this is, is just a box. We're taking muffins to somewhere, so I just borrowed a box. And it can be a bed for your baby doll. Just put it in there, just covered it with contact paper and put a blanket. Or if you need a stove, just turn it over, draw you some eyes and you've got a stove. Children don't have to have all the stuff, they enjoy just playing and going through the... Having something there. So it can be a box to put your babies in. It can be a stove, use your imagination. Buckets, that can be a sink. So any of those things make it easier and can be done inexpensively. And a lot of our teachers, like I said before, say, I just don't know if I can do those because there's cost. It takes a lot of time, but if they're doing the activities in their book, you can transfer that straight into one of the centers. Okay. I do wanna share with you a couple of things that we use in our rooms. We use a whole lot of Clorox wipes, with right now, I know it's hard to find. I know it's hard to find. But if you can find them, I think the thing that's harder to find is Lysol spray. If you found it, let me know, 'cause I'm coming to your place. But we use a lot of hand sanitizer and we use... This is a spray at my last church. We called it sanitize. I don't know how much it costs, but it kills everything. And so we have this now and if you would like to know what it is, I'll be glad to find out the exact name from our janitorial staff. But we use this after the children are finished and are leaving the F left the room, we spray this on everything and it's supposed to kill everything. We do a lot of... And it just dries. You can spray it on cloth, plastic, carpet, everything, and it will not stay, but it will kill stuff. But if you'd like to know the name of that, I'll check with him and find out. Hand washing is very big. If you don't have a sink source this side, the hand sanitizer will work. But hand washing is the best. In our infant rooms, infants in one's room. If something is mouthed, we use a bleach and Clorox solution. And we put that in that bleach and Clorox solution. And then we let it stay there and then put it in water and then let it dry. So those are some of the things that we are trying to do with COVID, not sharing supplies and things like that. And I realized I talk fast and evidently I really talked fast and I went through that fast. So if you have any questions, I'd love to answer them for you. Let me give you my email address. And because I do have some handouts that came from a book that was teaching pre-schoolers first steps toward faith, which was, is out of print now, but it takes each of the centers like the art center. And it tells you that you need, it'll tell you the role of the teacher in that center, some guidance tips for the center. And I would be glad to share with them. And I've got the art nature, science, the manipulative and puzzles blocks, home living dramatic play and using learning centers, using music and using books. And I'll be glad to share those with you. All you'd have to do is email me, and I will be glad to send those to you. And my email, I believe it's in the comments, but it is [email protected]. So like I said, I'm glad to share it. So Ms. Patty, if you wanna come back on and if anybody has any questions or anything like that.

- Ms. Beth, that was awesome. And the way you got all the way around the room, I am impressed. Thank you.

- I am impressed. We saw everything and that was wonderful. That was wonderful. A couple of things that I was thinking while you were talking, that maybe you can help us with. I know that when I have talked with folks about using learning centers, how would you suggest they incorporate the lesson with the activity? Do you have any tips for, do you put anything out? Is the lesson there? Do you have bullet points? Is there anything you do to help connect what the child is doing with what they're learning?

- Yes. A lot of the times you just share the story while they're doing that. Just like in... If you might just do a small group and have it, go ahead and tell the story. Especially these younger, the twos and threes, you know, the stories can be three lines kind of thing. But you tell the story, children learn by repetition. So if they're gonna hear... If they hear it in a small group and if they hear it in learning center, if they hear it in large group, then they're gonna remember more and more about that. So just tell the story, talk with them about that. You know what, I forgot the nature one. I just realized that. Hang on just a minute.

- Where is it?

- I was going to talk about that. Excuse me, just a minute, we'll come right up here. I forgot to go here. Okay. In our nature and science,

- Oh, there it is.

- This blue baskets is actually and this is making a rain stick and you can see it was the paper towel holder kind of thing. And then just the beans. And it's got aluminum foil with the beans in it, I just covered it. And it actually makes the rain steel. Okay. So next I'll come back here because that rain stick is when we talking about God gives us rain and takes care of us. And so you can talk with, while they're making the rain stick, just be talking and say, you know, God gave us the rain and he gave it for our crops and this is why he did it. And that activity with the lesson. And the music, when I was talking about playing the instruments, that's when they were walking around the walls of Jericho. And you can talk about it. They walked around at seven times and I believe in here, it says, walk around seven times. And they can be playing the instrument and you can talk about, yes, they walked around the walls and they tumbled and we're walking around, we're playing our instruments. And so you can relate the story directly to that activity. And in, in these books, it will help you relate that to the activity.

- Yeah. Yeah. I've actually talked with some teachers who are with babies and the younger toddlers, and have even said, you know, if you're uncomfortable, if you don't know what to say, cut it, you know, put an index card, write little prompts on it and tape it on the wall. The kids can't read So, you know, use it to prompt you because, you know, one thing that I think that we need to be doing is having intentional, natural, Jesus conversations with our kids. And so while they're playing and they're so busy with their hands, is such a great time to do that. It's just to intentionally bring in the story and talk about Jesus or the character of the day. So, yeah, really good advice there. Talk to us just a little bit about, you had a great VBS experience and so you did a lot of sanitizing and social distancing, and I know that you're about to start Sunday school, what, September 13th?

- September 13th.

- So can you give us a little bit of a insight on what you've done that has worked and what you're going to do come Sunday school?

- Okay. At VBS we had the best time. Our kids were excited about being here. Our parents were excited about being on campus and we did a lot of extra work. We did bags that had four of the children, each child had their own bag that had markers, crayons, a glue stick. For the older ones they had a pencil in it, had their name on it and they use that bag. That bag went with them to their Bible study classroom for any activities there, in missions where they had to do some writing and things. They had to bag and missions. That was their bag for crafts. And so that each child had their own individual bag. And that the end of Bible school, we just sent that with them because we thought we would be more. Just our church kids, we opened it for our church kids and then we opened it to the community. And we're about 60 of our church, 60 to 40 church kids to community kids. So we just said, we want to give this to you. When we did crafts, everything for the craft was put in a zip lock bags. We laughed and said, we should have taken stock and Ziplocs on about 2000 Ziplocs just for this week. And, but we had everything they needed for the craft. If they had to cut something, it was already cut. We had a group of ladies that came up and they worked with their mask and we had something that we had to thread a needle and they had to sew something. So we had the plastic needles in there. We had the yarn already cut in segments, all of that was done for them. So our craft people loved it because all they had to do was put a Ziploc bag out when the children came around. And as far as in the worship rally, when we were there, we marked off every other pew and then we took tape, blue tape and put it on the pews spaced out and so that's where the children knew to sit. And then we told them that we were being, we were walking funny. So in the halls, when they walked, they put their arms out in front of them. And so they wouldn't touch their friend. Was it six feet? No, but it was at least they were separated. On the floor, which are, when we start Sunday school, we're encouraging our Sunday school teachers to do this. They put something on the floor. We had somebody that made traffic cones that were quiet. We had somebody that used orange folders. We had people that used Xs and they put those things spaced out. They're six feet apart in their classrooms. And so when the children came in, they sat on whatever that was allowing them to be spaced out. In the Alabama, from Alabama health, you're supposed to, if you are teaching and you are at least six feet apart from who you're teaching, which pre-schoolers not really, not gonna happen. You do not have to have your mask on. As long as you stay six feet apart, if you are actually teaching or sharing or on a platform or away from them. We found that helped us out because the children were having a hard time understanding with a mask on. I don't know about you, but I have the same. I keep thinking of my hearing's going because I have to keep on, what, what, and, you know. With our preschoolers, we did the best we could with social distancing. But with our children, we were able to social distance, a little better. And the pre-school, we still had places for them to sit on the floor in VBS. We sanitized everything and everybody. The rooms were sanitized before we got there and then our cleaning crew has some stuff that they spray. The teacher sprayed our handy dandy bottle before they left the room. Our cleaning crew came in and sprayed and cleaned again. And then we found our... I have to hats off to our janitorial staff. We found some hand sanitizer that was a spray. And we also had the, I call them the a turn and it's the kind of, it's automatic. And if you're like me, you know, you put your hand under it and you get a quarter and a half of it. And so you're, you know, doing this number with it. But we had those at every rotation going into the worship center and coming in. And then at the teachers had one of the spray bottles and every time they went anywhere, they escorted everybody down. With our, let me go back, with our food. Everything was pre-packaged. And so, it would come by and they would pick up a package of whatever their stack was. And then our ladies would fix their drink. Let's see, what else did we do? We'd pick up and drop off, we had six feet apart, places to sit there. We check temperatures at the door and going into Sunday school, we've already started worship care for birth through three-year-olds. And for worship care, what we're doing there is that we have one person that is at our computer. We have computer check in and that one person checks in everyone. We have one way in and one way out of our pre-school area. And so... And we're allowing one parent to go in with the child. If there other children, they stand out by the desk and the other parent stays with them. So one goes in one way, drops off, comes back around and comes out another door. Because we have one person doing the check-in, there's about a minute, 30 seconds to a minute, by the time the next one goes in. So by the time one is coming out, another person's going in. And so that's how we're doing drop off. One thing that here has not been as enforced or people understanding, not allow people would just walk in the classroom. And so now they stop at the door and only the child goes in the classroom. And we've been big on that in our pre-school area, and the younger ones, we've given them the option of mask or not for adults. Here in Alabama, as you know, under six does not have to wear a mask. Under two is recommended, do not wear a mask. What we've found out with some of our children, when are our workers, we give them the option, if they'd like to wear the mask. Is... We have one little girl that if you walk in, if she sees somebody with a mask, she goes ballistic. And so when we finally figured that out, because one week she was fine, the next week she wasn't. The next week, she was fine and it was when people had a mask on. And so we've learned in that room with that child, the mask does not work. And so we make sure our workers are okay with that. With... After where they check in, parents go on their way to come out, go on their way. For pickup, we're right before when invitation starts, we come through and get everybody's diaper bag. And it goes out in the hall, not in our area. And then my husband and I, and another worker take turns. We see a parent coming from the worship center and we go, okay, that's so and so I've gone to get their children. And so the three of us take turns going and getting the children, and our parents are not coming back in the pre-school area at that time. As we get more people, I know we're gonna have to change that. But at this point, that's how we're doing it to keep more people off the hall. So...

- Yeah.

- So, that's basically what we're doing, trying to... It's a crazy world.

- Yeah, it is. It is. I... Today, I did a little short video that I put on our VBS AL: Tips and Training Facebook page. And it was just reminding folks about the Lifeway document, the ebook that they did on six considerations in reopening, with that came a little booklet with signs and posters. And that is one of the things that our children's pastor at at Manville Baptist is doing, is gonna just make sure that there are signs everywhere, just to remind people. You know, use your hand sanitizer, wash your hands. There are about 20 posters in that pack. And, you know, you can use them as they are. You can recreate them to say what you want them to say, but you could find those posters @wwwdotlifeway.com\kids'ministryfrom anywhere. Just smash that all together. And it has the eBooks. It has the poster. So if that's something that you'd like to have to, you know, put your walls, and you might want to check that out as well. So, it is something that we are all doing and, you know, one thing that's gonna work for one church isn't necessarily gonna work for another. But the way we learn is by listening and trying and doing. And so we appreciate you so much, Beth, for sharing your insight and your knowledge and your passion for pre-schoolers and teaching them all around the room. For those of you who have joined us again. Thank you, Thank you so much for coming and jumping on and listening to this training session. I want you to know that Beth will be joining us again on Sunday afternoon at two. Beth Baldwin, at two o'clock, we'll be sharing a conference on how Sunday school pre-school Sunday school is not childcare. And she's gonna be talking about that for a little bit. And then Beth and another one of our speakers lead, the Paul, will be in a panel discussion and we'll be taking questions. So you may want to pop back on Sunday to hear Beth Baldwin and then to be a part of that panel. Our next webinar is Saturday morning, bright and early 8:30. So grab a donut and a cup of coffee and join Letha Paula as she talks about creating sensory boxes to help enhance our Bible lessons. So I think it will be very interesting. And I think she has a lot of things to show you as Beth Henderson did, of ways that you can do that. And so join us Saturday morning at 8:30 for that webinar as well. So, Beth, thank you so much.

- Thank you

- I appreciate you. hope to see you live and in person one day really, really soon. It's all right. . Yeah. So guys, thank you again and we're gonna close it out. Thanks so much. Hope to see you later in the week.